There’s no getting away from the fact that the most recent season of Vanderpump Rules was action packed and emotionally charged—to say the least.
It culminated in an explosive two-part reunion show, with confrontations, allegations, name calling, screaming and lots and lots and LOTS of tears.
Now the dust has settled—well, kind of anyway—Popdust sat down for an exclusive interview with Tom Sandoval and Ariana Madix to get the inside track on all the drama, including what REALLY went down in Miami; Stassi Schroeder’s sex tape; “delusional” Kristen Doute; and, if they think Tom Schwartz and Katie Maloney will ever actually make it down the aisle.
Popdust: The biggest bombshell of the reunion was the revelation about Stassi’s sex tape. If she didn’t want anyone to know about it, why was she the one to bring it up? And why is she blaming it on Scheana Marie?
Tom: I think Stassi doesn’t like Scheana and will use any excuse to bully her. There is nothing justifiable behind Stassi’s hatred for Scheana. She just thought she was better than everyone else. Whatever kind of tape it is, I don’t know. She accused Scheana of having something to do with it and she didn’t. She likes being pissed at someone. She loves a good apology and she wants her ass kissed.
Ariana: She thought we were talking about the sex tape all season but it was just getting edited out. However, we truly weren’t talking about it. No one cared.
Popdust: Katie stood her ground this season and was adamant about not being friends with Stassi about the way she treated her over going to Miami. However, on the reunion Stassi changed her tune. Do you believe Stassi is truly sorry?
Ariana: I think Stassi lives in a bubble. I don’t think Katie holds any sort of grudge, but I don’t think Stassi lives in the same world as everyone else. She disposed of Katie.
Tom: I’ve known Stassi for a long time. I’ve seen her talk so much shit on people. She likes when people kiss her ass and as soon as they stop doing so, she snaps her fingers and is over it. We didn’t film much this season together because she is so about herself and I personally can’t deal with that. If you give Stassi a foot, she takes a mile.
Ariana: I think she’s justified in not wanting to hang out with him, but she went to such great lengths to not film with him. A lot of it she has built up in her mind. She’s taken it way over the top. I think with time and distance it should become less of a problem, but with her it’s become more in her mind.
Tom: It’s only since she’s been with this boyfriend that she acts this way. Part of the deal when she came back this season was that she needed to film with everyone even though she wasn’t working at SUR anymore. However, she refused to show up to filming multiple times. I had to film with my crazy ex-girlfriend and I obviously wasn’t thrilled about it, but Stassi felt she was above the rules.
Popdust: Jax was adamant all season that something happened between you and “Miami girl”. On the reunion though he completely changed his tune. What are your thoughts on that?
Tom: I know exactly what happened and that’s all that matters.
Ariana: Jax was sitting at a table of people (Kristen and her posse) who would love to hear something negative about Tom, so that’s what he gave them. If it benefited him to tell people I was a heroin addict, he would tell them that. He says whatever, to whomever, in any situation that will result in attention. You learn to ignore him.
Tom: The problem with the Miami situation is that it’s not something I can explain in three sentences. I get cut off every time I get to talk about it and they cut to Kristen or James. People think I’m guilty because I get so frustrated, but it’s really because I never got to fully explain myself.
Popdust: Okay, so tell us what really happened in Miami.
Tom: The girl is fucking crazy. She charged hundreds of dollars to Jax’s card in the room. Jax was with her friend and we were waiting for them to get back and we had to kick them out. It’s bullshit. She tried to say she had text messages between us, which conveniently never made it on the show because they don’t exist. There’s no texts. There’s no selfie. This girl was pissed because Jax took her laptop because she stole so much money from him. She refused to pay him back so he wouldn’t give the computer back.
Popdust: What happened exactly before he took the laptop?
Tom: These girls came up to us while we were doing an appearance in Miami. Jax and one of the girls disappeared for a while. They, including Anna Marie, stayed with us while we waited for them to come back.
The girl Jax was with didn’t have a phone for whatever reason so she took Anna Marie’s and they waited with us while she was out with Jax. The bar we wanted to go to was closed so we went back to our hotel. Keep in mind that I was talking to Ariana the entire night. I was calling Jax the entire time asking where he was and he told me he lost her phone and was going to buy her a new one. He felt bad, and because they were checking out the next day, he told them they could keep their luggage in our room until they caught their flight later that night.
Schwartz and I said they were shady. We hid all our stuff and I told Jax no one could come in our room. Schwartz and I left for a while. When we came back, Jax was at the pool with them. Once I got there I knew something was up because Anna Marie wouldn’t look us in the eye. I thought she stole something.
Once they finally left we realized her laptop was still in the room. Jax went to checkout and saw she charged hundreds of dollars to his card, so he said he wasn’t giving the laptop back. Meanwhile, he gave them money for dinner and for their cab. She tried to sell the story about Jax to the tabloids and it wasn’t interesting enough. So, that’s why she targeted me.
It’s fucking bullshit. It just pissed me off that they never gave me more than 30 seconds to tell what really happened. I mean, at this point, what the fuck else can people say about me?
Popdust: There’s no denying that Kristen is insane when it comes to your former relationship. However, on the reunion, she seemed rather tame in comparison to her past standards. Is she finally leaving you alone, has she managed to move on?
Tom: It’s so obvious that she’s delusional from everything that comes out of her mouth. However, she was on damage control at the reunion. I was way more reserved at the reunion than I should have been. I used to stress so hard about Kristen’s actions when we were together. I would always have to talk to her about the binds she’d put herself in and now I don’t. James is now seeing what happens when someone isn’t there to babysit her.
Ariana: I think she’s trying to rehab her image and it’s bullshit. She should have never even gone down that road.
Tom: She acts like she has all these reasons to have beef with Ariana. I have way more reason to have beef with James.
Popdust: Katie and Tom went through their fair share of drama this season. Schwartz took a lot of heat for his actions. Do you think they’re in it for the long haul?
Ariana: I think he is the guy she wants him to be. They’re doing really great and possibly better than ever. I think he needed to find himself. Because of things they’ve gone through in the past—and not having Stassi being a huge influence in their relationship and voicing her opinion all the time—Katie’s opinion has really come to the forefront, which has helped them really rediscover their compatibility.
Tom: I think that Schwartz now doesn’t have to deal with Stassi and Kristina Kelly chirping in his ear—Kristen too really. They were all major influences and third parties in his and Katie’s relationship. And Katie was in such a vulnerable position to have to listen to that. I would have ripped Stassi a new asshole when Tom took Katie flowers and Stassi went off on him. When people have a problem in their relationship, you don’t butt in. Stassi has no concept on what is appropriate for a friend to do.
Popdust: What are your thoughts on the season as a whole?
Tom: I really think the overall feel of the season is that a lot of us have grown into our own and matured.We’ve figured out what our priorities are.
The ones who haven’t are the ones being left behind—Kristen, Stassi, and Jax.
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