The super down-to-earth couple dish on everything from the upcoming Miami cheating scandal, dealing with the cray cray that is Kristen Doute, Jax Taylor (Oh, Jax!) to where they currently stand with Stassi Schroeder.
Ariana: My number one priority was for Scheana to have the best bachelorette party ever. Whether it was something we talked about or not when we got back…I knew it wasn’t something that I was going to discuss with her there and ruin the trip.
I honestly didn’t hear any of the things Kristen said in Miami until we got back, including the physical threats. Knowing what I know now certainly changes things, but Scheana was, and still is, my first priority. Scheana is an optimist and just thought it wouldn’t be as big of a deal as it actually was.
Popdust: Do you think Stassi took the Katie Maloney situation too far? Where do you stand in terms of a relationship with Stassi?
Tom: Yeah, she took it too far but I wouldn’t expect anything less from her. I’ve known her for years and I’ve seen the way she handles situations—including when Jax was trying to get her back last season. She loved and relished in him groveling at her feet. It’s a common thing with Stassi.
I have a huge issue with the way she treated Katie and Tom Schwartz. She overstepped her boundaries of a friendship. She projected such jaded and opinionated things toward Katie when she was in such a vulnerable state dealing with Schwartz. I know for a fact Katie tried to reach out to Stassi and she was flat out not responding.
Other than filming and occasionally running into her this past summer, I don’t really have much respect for someone who has no respect for anyone else.
Popdust: You seemed genuinely sincere and seeking nothing more than closure during your conversation with Kristen in Miami. Looking back, do you think Kristen was genuine or was it calculated on her end?
Tom: I was completely shocked and disappointed at how she took that conversation and totally manipulated the situation. She essentially preyed on weakness. All I wanted was closure.
I had been very short with Kristen because I didn’t want her to take the conversation a different way. I didn’t want her to think that something was there when it definitely wasn’t.
I tried everything to get her to move on. I don’t feel like I was dealing with a rational human being. Kristen lives in an alternate reality and lacks self-awareness.
Popdust: How is it for you Ariana not only having to work with Kristen, but also having to socialize with her?
Ariana: I do not associate with her as much as I humanly can. Had I been aware of the things Kristen said about me, including holding a knife, I would have totally taken legal action. It’s five months later now, so it’s hard to take that to court, but if I were aware at the time I most definitely would have taken legal action.
I mean, she punched people at my best friend’s birthday party, so I don’t think her becoming violent is that far out of the picture! There’s no being nice to her. She just doesn’t get it, so its better that I don’t associate at all.
Popdust: Do you find Kristen and James' relationship to be a joke?
Ariana: We’re not really around it so I couldn’t tell you from personal experience. I basically go off of what I see on the show.
Tom: After we broke up, I wasn’t very social and wasn't going out much. Kristen started collecting my friends Jerry Maguire style and I would hear things through them. Pretty much all of them have had falling-outs with her at this point. From what I hear, their relationship is pretty tumultuous.
Prior to my conversation with Kristen in Miami, I very respectfully asked James if I could speak to Kristen. After that, James was upset, but I reassured him that all we talked about was stopping the drama and respecting each other. She clearly took the conversation a very different way.
Popdust: She spends most of the show talking about you two.
Ariana: We didn’t have any idea it was that bad until we watched the show. We stopped filming in August. A friend of mine last week overheard Kristen talking about me at a club. Even still, I take it all with a grain of salt.
Tom: I’m trying to remember a single scene yet that she isn’t talking about us. I honestly didn’t think it was that bad.
Popdust: Tonight we see the Miami chick who claims to have hooked up with Tom arrive. What do you have to say about this, Tom? Ariana, did you ever believe Tom cheated, or just think this was simply a scheme run by Kristen?
Ariana: Just to address it—people aren’t considering that I lived through that “Miami night.” It bothers me because I don’t have to believe anybody. I personally lived that night. I had multiple phone conversations with Tom. Nothing she or Kristen says adds up.
I have never questioned the situation because I know what happened that night. I trust Tom. The way I’m being portrayed is against my character. I don’t just believe anything. It’s even more frustrating to try and defend myself to the viewers. It’s hard to explain your true self in a 140-character tweet.
Tom: It’s frustrating for both of us because it makes Ariana look naive and it makes me look untrustworthy. It’s funny, because any other time on the show they have no problem showing something in order to prove something to be true—such as a “beamerselfie” or screen shots of texts messages.
But, for some reason, when they make reference toward a text message conversation and a selfie I supposedly sent this girl, it’s conveniently left out. As the viewer your imagination runs wild thinking I sent shirtless selfies, but I absolutely did not.
A lot of facts were left out. The girl sold a story to a tabloid for money, yet everything was spun for people to think it was my word against hers.
Ariana: Tom is such a good guy and so genuine. You have to keep in mind that we’re making a show. You have to take it all with a grain of salt.
Popdust: Jax is a compulsive liar. Why do you think he constantly tries to bring you and Schwartz down?
Tom: There are a lot of reasons. I honestly have gotten used to it and don’t let it bother me for the most part. I think a big factor is that Jax loves being the center of attention. Don’t get me wrong, so do I, but for good reason. He will start a rumor simply to get attention from people, whether it’s good or bad.
Popdust: Can you give us any sneak peeks into what's still to come this season?
Tom: You’re gonna see me get blindsided with this Miami thing. What would a season of Vanderpump Rules be without blindsiding Tom, right?
Ariana: Some people come into their own and solidify who they are. You’re also going to see a really beautiful wedding. You just have to keep watching—there’s way more to come!
The craziness continues this tonight! The chick from Miami finally confronts Tom and chaos ensues. I mean, you couldn’t possibly think that was going end well, right?
I think we know better than that by now.
Vanderpump Rules airs Mondays at 9pm on Bravo.
Meanwhile, check out Popdust's gallery of Scheana’s Miami Bachelorette party photos—and sneak peek video of tonight's cray cray drama!