With a sound that's unpredictable and a daring personal style, ko aka koala stands out in a crowded pop field. The daughter of scientists, she's created a universe inspired by Y2K punk, genre films, and '80s animation.

Her singles prior to 2022 were dark and dense. Recent releases, including her latest "hit & run," are more radio friendly, but the production and vocals retain an experimental touch.

Jordan Edwards and Demi Ramos talk to ko about the new single, her previous life as a DJ, and the intersection of music and visuals.

ko aka koala | It's Real with Jordan and Demi www.youtube.com

The last time we spoke to payton, he was making the transition from TikTok star to full-fledged artist. With the new EP insomnia, the journey is complete. Over warm retro synths and inventive beats, the 19-year-old previews a bright future as a musician.

Jordan Edwards and Demi Ramos talk to payton about the making of insomnia, dating in the public eye, collecting tattoos, and leaving LA for North Carolina.

payton | It's Real with Jordan and Demi www.youtube.com

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